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good morning my name is robert

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robert salas

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ford solace

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what's up everybody

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thanks for joining me on this uh

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wonderful tuesday evening

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we have a wonderful guest

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we have a former commander of the united

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states air force maelstrom air force

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base

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uh mr robert salas

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that timing is is pretty good

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considering

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and so in a sec i'm gonna bring him in

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and

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uh we're we're gonna get after it so you

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can feel free to put any questions that

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you may have in the chat

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um

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you know you can give a donation that's

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up to you

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you don't have to to to ask a question

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just just put your question

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in um all caps and i'll try to get to it

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and yes so get after it so without

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further ado i'll bring in the man the

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myth the legend

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mr robert salas how are you

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[Laughter]

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too much

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uh

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well yeah just a little too much

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hi sean

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good to talk to you uh i don't know that

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we've ever had an interview before

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haven't we

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no no we have not but but i'm glad you

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agreed to this why you agreed to it i

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don't know but i'm but i'm glad you did

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and and i think i believe you're

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probably missing a dodger game which is

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just oh well you know the dodgers uh

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they're doing so well i'm not gonna

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worry about them today

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okay

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well hopefully my brewers don't have to

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to play them in any national

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championship games

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anytime soon so thanks for joining us i

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mean uh we we've had so much um

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obviously uh going on right now with the

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with the congressional hearings and

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you know um the famous smells from case

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was brought up which which you have so

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um you know bravely uh put forth to the

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american people time and time again

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um

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yesterday i did an episode where where i

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kind of went over the synopsis of of

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what happened in the two incidents and

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the

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missiles uh pretty much were rendered

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inoperable not able to to be used so i

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don't want to you know i don't want you

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to have to retell the story and

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everything but um

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i would like to make a couple of

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corrections uh yeah please do

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and uh let me just start by saying that

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um after the incident happened i was

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ordered to sign a non-disclosure

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statement the next day and uh

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ordered never to speak about it again to

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anyone uh

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and i didn't for

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until 1994 so about 27 years

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i didn't say a word about it to anyone

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um including my wife

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and i i made a conscious effort to try

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to forget

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the whole thing if i could uh but

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of course he kept nagging at me um

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and it wasn't until 94 when i picked up

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a book called above top secret by

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timothy good uh

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turned to page 301 and

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and there was a reference to uh missiles

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shutting down a vessel being shut down

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by ufos and um

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at malmstrom in 66 and 67 and um

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and that's when i decided to come

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forward i thought it was my incident

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i noticed uh yesterday

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it was mentioned that um

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both incidents happened on the same day

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that was my initial recollection

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and again this is a whole process of

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trying to recover details

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that caused that uh error um

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the missiles the echo flight incident

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occurred march 16th my incident occurred

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my my first question is is

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uh a lot of reports on that day march

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24th and and even including a landing

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that's right

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yeah do you recall anything about that

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hearing anything or what have you

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learned

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you know uh since your incident in the

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meantime about that if you've looked

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into it at all

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there was a truck driver driving through

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belt montana uh on march 24th about i

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the light blinks at him a couple of

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he takes a look at this light it turns

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an object uh ufo and he watches it land

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in a um

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an area called frenchman's cove it's

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frenchman's gulf so i think it's cool

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he calls the highway patrol highway

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patrol comes

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they both see the object

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rise up and then land again

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and then they call the air force air

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force comes out

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they see the object

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landed in

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frenchman's uh

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and this is documented both by the truck

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driver himself who wrote a

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handwritten note a letter

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not a letter a report

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on the landing

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actually you can see that in my book

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faded

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i got that at the appendix his

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handwritten statement

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and in addition to that

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the air force did an investigation

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this was done by the base

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ops officer called lieutenant colonel

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chase

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he actually sent that to the copies of

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that to the continent committee

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uh but it was an official report air

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force report

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objects were seen that evening

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over the base

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so yes there were a lot of reports that

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that is incredible

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and and kind of further

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not that you needed it but further uh

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bolsters you know what happened there

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and it you know and i'm reading into uh

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i put the the link for mr sal's book

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here and in the chat so if anybody is

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interested which you should be you

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should buy it and that's a direct order

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what what i found interesting and

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looking at some of those documents was

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into this stuff and and determined

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it would take i think it was like a 10

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i don't know i forget what it is 10 you

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know voltage or something to to be able

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to render those inoperable but it would

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have been basically impossible to do it

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outside of the base they had to directly

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you know what boeing did was a bench

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test of what's called the logic coupler

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the logic coupler is part of the

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guidance system guidance and control

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that's fed to it by the inertial

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guidance that we had it's uh

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if that's done if that level platform is

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the um missile would shut down because

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what would happen is the after launch

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the missile couldn't orient itself or at

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calculate

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whether or not it was on target

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that was what they suspected happened

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uh headed up by bob kaminsky he was the

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team leader we we communicated with

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kaminsky wrote this letter

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a long letter

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his team had not found any specific

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reason for the

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missile shutdown that they could

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determine for sure

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and they looked at everything they

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you know uh things in the capsule that

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might have caused it um

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they looked at many many things

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and they were going to write a report to

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the air force which they were ordered to

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do actually by a strategic air command

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because they had the main support

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contract for the mid-amendment missile

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but they were about to write their

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final report and then they were ordered

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not to write a final report wow and he

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was told by his um

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that this was a ufo event

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and the reason the air force did not

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want a final report is because they were

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doing their own report in secret

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it was a secret report

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the condon investigation was ongoing at

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the time i don't know if you're familiar

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with the condo oh yeah

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unfortunately yeah yeah

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it was ongoing at the time and

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they didn't want the kind of

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investigators to

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get wind of

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any of it

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because then they would have started

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asking questions so

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the con investigators would never had

300
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access to the

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this secret air force report

302
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we have tried my my researcher james

303
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klotz and i have tried many many times

304
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to get this report which is still

305
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classified secret wow um without luck

306
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but

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members of congress could certainly ask

308
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for it

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yeah

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you know the condom report's interesting

311
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i just found um

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a document

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at uh colorado university they had they

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had a meeting with uh ufo investigators

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at uh several of the air force bases

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which people don't even you know think

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about that yes these air force bases had

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individual ufo officers why

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uh but one of them was uh chase lewis i

320
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wonder if you know

321
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louis chase yeah from mel's from air

322
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force base right um and did you have any

323
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interaction with that guy

324
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by chance uh no

325
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uh he was

326
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he was base operations but he was

327
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identified once the county committee got

328
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going about august of

329
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he was identified who was appointed by

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the air force as a base ufo officer that

331
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would be working with the continent

332
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committee

333
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okay gotcha

334
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yeah what do you need that for if

335
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there's no ufos

336
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[Laughter]

337
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but yeah so the the hearings i mean you

338
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must have fell out of your chair when

339
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you heard that come up

340
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i was

341
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like

342
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i was very happy to hear it

343
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but what what was this

344
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bothered me is the um

345
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dod

346
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mr moultrie

347
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didn't seem to know much about it if

348
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anything at all you know they

349
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neither one of them

350
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and you know you would think that if he

351
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was put in charge of um

352
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the uap office that dod is setting up

353
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well maybe he wasn't i'm sure but but he

354
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was a contact that

355
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obviously this

356
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congressman

357
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carson thought would be a good witness

358
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on the subject

359
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he should have read

360
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the

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national defense authorization act

362
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uh put forth by senator gillibrand

363
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and in that amendment there's a specific

364
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item that says

365
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uh

366
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dod i see in intelligence community you

367
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will

368
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uh check

369
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if there was any activity of ufos around

370
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nuclear weapons bases

371
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or words to that effect it's right there

372
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in black and white and if he had been

373
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properly prepared for that hearing he

374
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should have at least

375
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looked into my incident

376
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yeah or what i've reported for over

377
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25 years

378
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yeah

379
00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:43,519
how did that make you feel

380
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uh

381
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well

382
00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:48,720
frustrated again

383
00:15:52,629 --> 00:15:50,000
but yeah

384
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but uh at least it's now on the record

385
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it's now in the official record of that

386
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hearing

387
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and i'm sure

388
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congressman gallagher is not going to

389
00:16:02,629 --> 00:16:01,839
forget about it

390
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and

391
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we'll keep pressing

392
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and i know another congressman

393
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burchett i think his name is from

394
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tennessee

395
00:16:16,790 --> 00:16:14,000
yeah uh it was pretty incense that

396
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it went so poorly from uh

397
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so i think they're going to keep

398
00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:24,240
pressing it at least

399
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:25,279
yeah

400
00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:27,040
it's just got to be frustrating i mean

401
00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:28,240
you spend

402
00:16:32,629 --> 00:16:30,399
over two decades making sure that the

403
00:16:34,550 --> 00:16:32,639
public has this information and and

404
00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:34,560
knows about this uh

405
00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:37,839
insane ufo encounter that uh

406
00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:38,880
really

407
00:16:44,069 --> 00:16:41,600
um should have a huge impact on our

408
00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:44,079
national security if if not just you

409
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know as human beings

410
00:16:49,910 --> 00:16:47,440
and you get to a point like this where

411
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there's uh congressional hearings and

412
00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:51,600
and you got these you know excuse my

413
00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:53,360
language wise asses

414
00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:56,079
uh pretending that uh

415
00:16:58,790 --> 00:16:57,519
you know it's only

416
00:16:59,990 --> 00:16:58,800
been in the media and it's not a

417
00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:00,000
documented

418
00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:02,079
uh case one clearly there's there's

419
00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:04,959
documents on the case um

420
00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:06,959
yeah absolutely frustrating

421
00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:10,000
i sent the dod ig inspector general

422
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:10,799
right

423
00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:13,760
of the task force i say um

424
00:17:16,829 --> 00:17:16,160
i've got a copy of it right here

425
00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:16,839
it's

426
00:17:21,429 --> 00:17:19,839
a many pages

427
00:17:24,390 --> 00:17:21,439
of documents

428
00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:24,400
documents affidavits actual uh

429
00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:27,120
documents that are retrieved under foia

430
00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:30,840
uh affidavits from witnesses other

431
00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:32,880
witnesses uh

432
00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:35,440
including my own affidavit

433
00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:37,919
on the malmstrom incidents

434
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:39,520
and

435
00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:40,320
i

436
00:18:04,470 --> 00:17:57,360
that was a year ago

437
00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:07,750
uh representative gallagher who

438
00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:09,840
who brought out the issue of uh

439
00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:11,520
malmstrom

440
00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,600
i was able to talk to one of his

441
00:18:16,870 --> 00:18:15,600
assistants they said they would be in

442
00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:16,880
touch

443
00:18:20,710 --> 00:18:18,960
and this was um

444
00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:20,720
same day same day as the hearing so it

445
00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:22,799
was about a week ago

446
00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:24,640
i haven't heard back

447
00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:25,919
yeah

448
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:28,799
i called that day too so maybe

449
00:18:32,549 --> 00:18:30,559
maybe he's a bit swamped because he's

450
00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:32,559
actually in green bay

451
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,720
which is uh my estate so i thought i'd

452
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:35,919
give him a call

453
00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:38,530
but uh maybe it's due for another call

454
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:40,960
[Laughter]

455
00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:44,080
keep calling yeah uh i will

456
00:18:47,510 --> 00:18:46,000
actually um

457
00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:47,520
well

458
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:49,120
you know what that being the case which

459
00:18:52,549 --> 00:18:51,039
which i find just uh

460
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:52,559
kind of disappointing that he hasn't

461
00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:54,720
even called you um

462
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:56,080
what do you think this is about do you

463
00:19:01,350 --> 00:18:58,960
think this is about legit disclosure

464
00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:01,360
what do you think is

465
00:19:04,390 --> 00:19:03,440
what's your take from all this stuff

466
00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:04,400
yeah

467
00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:07,360
uh let's look at the situation

468
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:09,360
if

469
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:12,000
um i was to give a briefing to the

470
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:14,080
congressman or any other congressman

471
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:16,000
which i've offered to do

472
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:18,320
i've offered to fly anywhere in the

473
00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:22,640
united states on my own dime

474
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:25,039
and give a briefing a complete briefing

475
00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:27,200
on the malmstrom incidents for which i

476
00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:28,080
have

477
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:30,080
documented evidence i've got witness

478
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:31,679
testimony

479
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:36,480
but

480
00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:37,520
uh

481
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:38,640
if

482
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:42,480
uh congress were to accept this report

483
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:45,360
of mine um

484
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:49,440
they would have to admit that um

485
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,160
there is a serious national security

486
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:54,160
implication here

487
00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:55,039
where

488
00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:01,360
flying object

489
00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:03,200
that they could not show

490
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:06,960
was manufactured on earth because of its

491
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:09,200
performance characteristics and what it

492
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:10,960
did

493
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:14,799
55 years ago at malmstrom um it was able

494
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:17,200
to penetrate 60 feet of earth and

495
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,799
concrete send signals to pen missiles

496
00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:22,960
separately

497
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:26,720
within seconds and upset the guidance

498
00:20:29,190 --> 00:20:27,450
system

499
00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:29,200
[Music]

500
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:31,600
as i described in each of the 10

501
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:32,559
missiles

502
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:35,200
they all had the same failure mode

503
00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:36,559
anyway

504
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:37,520
uh

505
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:39,840
think of the implications of that so i

506
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:43,520
what i'm thinking here is that um

507
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:46,320
uh both the congress who's supposed to

508
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:53,430
and the dod for example

509
00:20:59,110 --> 00:20:56,559
are flummoxed as to how to deal with

510
00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:59,120
this reality

511
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:00,960
and they probably still don't know how

512
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:02,960
exactly they could

513
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:05,520
explain to the public

514
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:07,440
that this is real

515
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:10,400
and what they're going to do about it

516
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:13,120
so i think that's still

517
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:14,480
in other words bottom line i think

518
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:17,200
they're both afraid uh to

519
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:18,799
disclose

520
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,120
you know

521
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,799
it's uh

522
00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:26,240
you know

523
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:30,240
here for almost two years since i had my

524
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:32,000
experience and i just couldn't get it

525
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:33,840
out of my head and i had to do something

526
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:35,679
about it so you know i started the show

527
00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:36,640
to start

528
00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:38,559
you know giving me a reason to research

529
00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:39,360
and

530
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,640
talk to somebody about what i'm

531
00:21:42,789 --> 00:21:41,760
researching because i didn't know

532
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:42,799
anybody

533
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:43,840
you know

534
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:48,960
i feel silly saying i'm sick and tired

535
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:51,039
of this or that because because of that

536
00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:52,720
fact you know so that's why i say that

537
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:53,600
but

538
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:56,720
i mean it's been long enough

539
00:22:00,549 --> 00:21:57,919
if for

540
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:00,559
for you know the excuse of being scared

541
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,440
uh to really hold true anymore i mean

542
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:05,360
for for christ's sex just ask you what

543
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:07,120
to say i mean you've said it a million

544
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:08,559
times

545
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,520
you know

546
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,039
like i would i would say you're pretty

547
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:13,760
experienced um at this point to tell

548
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,919
people uh what happened

549
00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:17,039
um

550
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,799
you know

551
00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:20,000
well

552
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:22,240
the good news is they're not going to be

553
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:25,200
able to avoid responding to it to the

554
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,280
public now because it's been brought up

555
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:30,080
publicly in this hearing

556
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:31,440
and um

557
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:32,960
like i said there's going to be a

558
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:35,120
follow-up and

559
00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,760
asking the dod agreed to um

560
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:41,280
to look into it

561
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:43,039
those were the words that moultrie is

562
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:48,310
okay

563
00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:49,919
oh

564
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:51,919
we'll see what that means

565
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:53,039
yeah well

566
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:54,799
look into it if someone of authority

567
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,010
does this yeah okay buddy

568
00:23:02,630 --> 00:22:59,200
[Laughter]

569
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:05,350
i mean i've heard you say before

570
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,200
you know just uh generally speaking um

571
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:11,200
you think that um

572
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,840
you know possibly they were trying to

573
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:16,080
the that whoever was in the the

574
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:19,120
spaceships or um ufos was

575
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:21,280
just kind of trying to say hey you guys

576
00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:22,640
are a bunch of dummies what are you

577
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:24,159
doing with this stuff

578
00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:26,000
basically like you have no business with

579
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,679
this and i kind of think that makes

580
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,360
sense because you know people would say

581
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:31,039
like well why haven't they

582
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,880
you know come back and done it again or

583
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:34,240
this time or that time but they've done

584
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:36,159
it in russia yes and they've you know

585
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:37,760
done weird things at other places but

586
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:41,039
like once you know you can do it

587
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:43,039
you know you don't have to keep going

588
00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:46,240
back you know it's like well i think

589
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,679
et did

590
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,679
do it multiple times

591
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,600
and i say e.t because i'm convinced

592
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,360
these are extraterrestrials

593
00:23:56,669 --> 00:23:55,840
okay raft

594
00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:56,679
uh

595
00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,520
1966 at minon air force base you've

596
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:02,159
heard the testimony of david shindelli

597
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:03,120
yeah

598
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:06,400
uh and my two incidents that echo and

599
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:08,960
oscar in 67

600
00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:14,000
68 again at minot air force base uh

601
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:15,440
a very

602
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,039
incredible

603
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:19,520
witness it was just it was not just him

604
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:21,679
it was a whole bunch of witnesses uh it

605
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:23,679
was very thoroughly

606
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:26,559
investigated where a ufo landed next to

607
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:29,279
a launch facility where the missiles are

608
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:32,640
and crushed the fence and removed the

609
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,400
cover of the

610
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:36,240
launch tube um

611
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:39,760
we had a very a 20-ton cover

612
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:43,039
it was on rails and there's no way to

613
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,039
i don't know i don't want you to lift 20

614
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,200
tons out there but

615
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,789
and i i list in my my latest book

616
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:56,880
i hate to keep plugging my books but go

617
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:57,679
ahead

618
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:01,200
i'm not paying you so you might as well

619
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,640
you're not paying me

620
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,799
oh crap

621
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:06,720
okay

622
00:25:08,990 --> 00:25:07,679
my bad

623
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:09,000
this was called

624
00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:12,159
unidentified the ufo phenomenon

625
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:15,039
and in there i list at least a dozen

626
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:18,799
other incidents where ufos fly over a

627
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:21,760
weapons storage area where the nukes are

628
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:24,320
kept and shine a beam of light and then

629
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:25,679
fly off

630
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,960
oh right you actually

631
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:30,960
that interrupt but she actually recently

632
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:33,760
did a somewhat of a a press conference

633
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:36,240
where um somebody was talking about an

634
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:38,320
episode similar to that with an atlas i

635
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:40,240
believe that was in the air

636
00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,880
um well no not

637
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,480
well it was a yeah you're talking about

638
00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,120
uh bob jacobs yeah yeah bob jacobs here

639
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:49,279
that was an atlas missile

640
00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,640
but also um

641
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,799
yeah so they demonstrated in in that

642
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:56,880
case they demonstrated that they could

643
00:26:03,590 --> 00:25:59,120
um

644
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:05,669
if if launched if the missile was

645
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:09,909
and then there have been other cases

646
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:12,080
many other cases so

647
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:14,320
my case is not

648
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:15,200
uh

649
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,200
cases with good witnesses

650
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:32,080
yeah and uh there's a book called ufos

651
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:34,000
nukes that does that really

652
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:36,240
really well too yeah robert hastings is

653
00:26:44,669 --> 00:26:42,710
yeah i mean i found cia documents dating

654
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:44,679
back to you know

655
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:47,919
1950 52 even earlier

656
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,760
talk about these things being in you

657
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,559
know strategic areas and you know

658
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:54,480
nuclear areas and there's the old oak

659
00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:55,610
ridge cases and

660
00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:57,440
[Music]

661
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:59,679
where that's happened um

662
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:00,720
so

663
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,760
and even los alamos

664
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:05,760
atomic security officers the green

665
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:07,679
fireballs like all that stuff like come

666
00:27:12,789 --> 00:27:10,000
on man there's something about this just

667
00:27:15,190 --> 00:27:12,799
seems to me sometimes that uh a part of

668
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,200
not wanting to admit it is is also uh

669
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:17,360
admitting that they've wasted a lot of

670
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:19,200
money and stuff they may not even ever

671
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,440
be able to use

672
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,760
oh yeah but the biggest sin is they've

673
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:25,440
withheld this information from the

674
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:26,559
public

675
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,279
yeah you know for some 70 years

676
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,960
and um

677
00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,559
that's the hard thing they have to

678
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,720
swallow you know if they're really going

679
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,039
to tell the truth about this

680
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:39,120
they have deliberately lied to the

681
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,679
public for over 70 years about the

682
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,679
reality of this phenomenon

683
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:44,799
yeah

684
00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:46,840
it's awful

685
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,080
yeah uh this is actually a

686
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:52,480
decent question uh why do you think that

687
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:56,000
um the aliens or ets didn't interfere

688
00:28:00,950 --> 00:27:58,399
with like the hiroshima and nagasaki

689
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:00,960
bombings

690
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:03,440
well i mean this is pretty speculative

691
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:04,640
on my part

692
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:09,830
you know actually

693
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:12,640
ufos flew over the um

694
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:15,279
hanford nuclear site where right

695
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,080
plutonium was produced for those bombs

696
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,640
the ones that were dropped on

697
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:22,880
hiroshima and nagasaki

698
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:27,990
i don't think they want to interfere to

699
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:31,840
the extent where they start um

700
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:34,399
stopping what we're doing um

701
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:35,760
i think

702
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:38,080
and this is just pure speculation on my

703
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,960
part

704
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,080
sure

705
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,080
i think they want us to solve this

706
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:44,880
problem nuclear weapons on our own i

707
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,710
for us to demonstrate that we have the

708
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:52,640
ability to do that

709
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:55,919
and so far we have not demonstrated that

710
00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:59,120
in fact it's gotten worse yeah it's

711
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,360
gotten worse this idea of nuclear

712
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:03,120
deterrence

713
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:06,720
uh that this concept where uh

714
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:09,520
as long as we have a superior number of

715
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,799
nukes or equal to any other country

716
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:15,360
uh no one would dare attack as well

717
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,840
that's baloney

718
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:20,000
because

719
00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:21,520
what has happened is more and more

720
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:24,840
countries now possess them more

721
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:27,120
countries will want to possess them in

722
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:29,120
the future

723
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:30,880
we've had threats

724
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:34,240
from not only north korea but russia

725
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:35,440
recently

726
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,840
has threatened to use nuclear weapons

727
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:40,399
um

728
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,360
our own commanders

729
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:45,440
for example general westmoreland during

730
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:50,549
the

731
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,120
president johnson that he used nuclear

732
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:55,279
weapons uh

733
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:57,360
general macarthur requested the use of

734
00:30:02,149 --> 00:30:00,720
nuclear weapons during the korean war

735
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,159
um so

736
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:04,960
it's not without the real uh above the

737
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:08,480
realm of possibility that

738
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:10,559
let's say the russians

739
00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:15,919
use a small nuke in the ukrainian war

740
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:17,279
would we

741
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,279
then get involved and threaten to use

742
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:23,200
small nukes

743
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:24,399
i mean

744
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,360
yeah

745
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:26,960
you can see how it could escalate very

746
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,640
quickly so

747
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:30,480
nuclear war

748
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:33,360
is not out of the question

749
00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,559
still

750
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:36,399
yeah

751
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:40,640
what you said about hiroshima a little

752
00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:42,720
bit and you know hoping that we learned

753
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:45,279
for ourselves um you know sometimes i

754
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,559
think of like

755
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:48,880
a parent and a child

756
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,640
some of the the worst punishment you can

757
00:30:53,430 --> 00:30:51,919
have is

758
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:53,440
seeing the repercussions of your

759
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,480
mistakes and in the pain it causes

760
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,480
right you know and

761
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:00,559
you would hope that

762
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:02,480
you know people would learn their lesson

763
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,519
but

764
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:05,679
at this point you know a decades past

765
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:07,919
and decades past i feel like people just

766
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:09,519
lose um

767
00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,360
you know the seriousness and the weight

768
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:13,279
of what it really means to use a nuclear

769
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:14,640
bomb

770
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:17,360
unfortunately um so you think these are

771
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:19,120
uh

772
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:21,440
do you think all these ufos and stuff

773
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:24,000
you know maybe speculation whatever but

774
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,960
are uh extraterrestrials and

775
00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:28,159
um

776
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,919
do you think

777
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,679
you know they come from one place or it

778
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,519
tell me your synopsis on on why you're

779
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:35,039
thinking the e.t

780
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:44,149
you know if you can in a nutshell

781
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,470
do you want to

782
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,640
well i know uh

783
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:50,559
you know experiencers people who've been

784
00:31:58,710 --> 00:31:56,950
met these extraterrestrials

785
00:32:02,149 --> 00:31:58,720
uh me included

786
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:02,159
have seen various uh

787
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,799
types of beings from time to time

788
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:08,000
so

789
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:10,880
whether or not they're from one place

790
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:14,640
or not i have no idea it is likely that

791
00:32:18,230 --> 00:32:17,200
there are multiple

792
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:18,240
uh

793
00:32:23,190 --> 00:32:20,880
et civilizations that

794
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:23,200
have visited us

795
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:25,120
and

796
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,519
but uh

797
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,399
well

798
00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:30,080
i mean the rest

799
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:32,399
your guess is as good as mine

800
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:33,600
um

801
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,559
excuse me for being uh ignorant to this

802
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:38,799
fact but um

803
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:40,000
would you mind

804
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,559
telling me about your experience

805
00:32:48,070 --> 00:32:44,960
yeah actually i went public with it in

806
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:48,080
2013 and it's in in my book

807
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:49,760
unidentified

808
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:51,440
that book

809
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:52,559
okay

810
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,200
1985

811
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,440
i was living in manhattan beach

812
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:59,200
california

813
00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,880
i know the specific house because i

814
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:02,559
remember

815
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:06,640
uh i was i was remodeling houses and uh

816
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:08,880
buying them and then fixing them up and

817
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:10,640
selling them so i remember where i was

818
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,480
in 85

819
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,799
this particular house

820
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,159
now one night

821
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:18,399
my wife and i and two children were

822
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:22,720
asleep uh and all of a sudden i woke up

823
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,559
saw blue light coming from the living

824
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:26,559
room and by the way all this i'm telling

825
00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:29,679
you as a result of uh

826
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,919
i think i've had four

827
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:33,840
uh

828
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:39,200
on this so

829
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:41,919
uh and this is as far as i got as far as

830
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:44,240
the information so

831
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:47,679
uh so i wake up see the blue light

832
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:49,600
wake up my wife

833
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:51,600
ask her if she sees the blue light she

834
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,120
says yeah

835
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,200
i said i'm going to go check on it there

836
00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:57,679
might be someone in the house

837
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:58,799
so

838
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:01,279
i try to get up i'm paralyzed i can't

839
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,559
move

840
00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:04,480
and i remember struggling

841
00:34:10,790 --> 00:34:07,039
with everything i had to

842
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:10,800
to overcome the paralysis

843
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,240
and uh turn to my wife and just

844
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:16,079
now she's unconscious

845
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:18,480
can't wake her

846
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:21,760
so next thing i see a

847
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,320
um hooded figure in the doorway i can't

848
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:27,359
see the face but it's

849
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:30,079
a little smaller than an average

850
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:33,760
person a hooded figure

851
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,240
and then the next i'm aware of

852
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:38,159
what i think are children

853
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:41,040
uh that's the impression i got again i i

854
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:42,399
don't remember

855
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,359
the faces just small beings

856
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:47,200
in the room

857
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:50,560
i get lifted off my bed and

858
00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:54,480
floated to the locked window

859
00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:56,639
they take me through the window

860
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:59,200
i know that sounds ridiculous but that's

861
00:35:01,829 --> 00:35:00,720
what happened

862
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:01,839
i at all

863
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:04,480
they take me through the window next

864
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:05,520
time

865
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:10,960
on board a craft um on a metal table

866
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:13,760
being shown a needle

867
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,800
a long needle

868
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,000
held my

869
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:20,240
fingers

870
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:21,599
uh

871
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:24,320
and they communicate me with me

872
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,280
telepathically i guess that

873
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:29,680
they're gonna insert this in my groin

874
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:32,800
area and it won't hurt but when they did

875
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:35,200
that it hurt like help

876
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:36,640
and as soon as i

877
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:38,079
felt the pain

878
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:43,030
probably screamed but

879
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:46,560
uh the pain went away almost immediately

880
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:50,550
set me on a bench

881
00:35:52,870 --> 00:35:51,920
after that

882
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,880
uh

883
00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,520
on the side of the craft

884
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:57,280
uh

885
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:58,640
i had two

886
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:01,280
small beings on either side they

887
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,200
escorted me over to

888
00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,000
another cubicle where

889
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:07,760
another being uh

890
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:10,000
turned me around and

891
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:12,480
poked fingers along my spine

892
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,640
that's all i did he just poked his

893
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:16,960
fingers down my spine

894
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:22,710
went around

895
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,400
curbing the craft along with these two

896
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:28,079
beings and we were floating by the way

897
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:33,510
all this whole time we weren't walking

898
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,839
we were floating

899
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:37,520
and then a

900
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:39,520
big flash of white lightning back in my

901
00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:44,550
uh that's basically it the next morning

902
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,680
my neither my wife nor i remembered any

903
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:49,599
of this

904
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:51,680
we never talked about it

905
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:55,200
and then 27 years later i think it was

906
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:00,480
85 yeah no 22 years later

907
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,320
uh uh we were in

908
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,240
ireland i was

909
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:06,640
there at a conference and there was a

910
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,680
lady who was talking about her abduction

911
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,599
experience she said she saw a blue light

912
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:13,119
in her bedroom

913
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,920
i turned to my wife and

914
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:17,359
i asked her

915
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,800
because it rang a bell with me

916
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,400
i asked her do you remember seeing a

917
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,400
blue light in the bedroom

918
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:26,480
she said yes

919
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:28,320
and

920
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:31,359
that was it after that i again got

921
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:33,119
uh

922
00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:34,560
regression

923
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,880
four times

924
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:38,560
and that's how i was able to come up

925
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:41,839
with uh what i just told you

926
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:44,079
thanks for sharing that

927
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:46,720
you know uh

928
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:49,280
i feel like um whenever somebody tells a

929
00:37:53,829 --> 00:37:51,200
story uh

930
00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:53,839
or their their experience um

931
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:56,560
you know this must this is gonna sound

932
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:58,800
crazy is like part of

933
00:38:02,230 --> 00:37:59,680
every

934
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,240
um

935
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,480
even you know mine which doesn't even

936
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:06,000
touch uh

937
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:07,839
you know what you went through but what

938
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:10,000
what i find interesting is

939
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:12,160
that it was the light

940
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:15,119
that you consciously remembered at first

941
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,720
that made you

942
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,400
you know dig a little deeper and i

943
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:20,079
wonder

944
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:21,599
you know if

945
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:23,440
more people

946
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:25,359
that have just seen the lights and kind

947
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:27,200
of like shake it off

948
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,400
don't realize the potential impact that

949
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,800
light may have just had you know

950
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,800
or may have had on their life it makes

951
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,960
me kind of want to try the regression

952
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:39,119
because the lights i saw were very

953
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:40,640
intense and

954
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:42,160
you know uh

955
00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:44,960
one was 13 feet away from my face you

956
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:48,560
know 150 feet above my head and i just

957
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:50,400
can't figure out what the heck it was

958
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:52,720
never seen it again don't understand any

959
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:53,680
of it

960
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:55,920
um but you know i do wonder if there was

961
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:57,680
something more behind it

962
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,720
you know

963
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,560
like what you explained but i'm also

964
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,920
afraid of

965
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,680
of the regression stuff you know i'm not

966
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:05,440
in control i don't know what they're

967
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:06,640
saying

968
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,440
what's you know what's going on

969
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,520
but and then having to live with those

970
00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:13,680
memories seems um

971
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:15,680
very complicated

972
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,560
yeah it's um

973
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:20,640
you know for any anyone who thinks

974
00:39:26,829 --> 00:39:22,480
they've had experience

975
00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:26,839
it's a frightening thing to

976
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:30,640
um engage with another human being about

977
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,160
it um

978
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,720
well really what you're fearful of is

979
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,880
what you'll find out and

980
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,880
you won't know how to deal with it

981
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,560
um right

982
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:42,400
that's the scary part

983
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,440
uh

984
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:45,680
so

985
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:47,119
yeah well

986
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:52,390
thanks bud

987
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:54,839
good luck with that

988
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:58,240
yeah um well i mean all you can really

989
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:00,880
do is you know what you've always done

990
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,599
which is which is tell um

991
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:05,760
tell the experience and

992
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,280
you know let people know that it that

993
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:09,599
it's real because well every every time

994
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:10,960
somebody hears it that's had an

995
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:13,040
experience and maybe hasn't heard anyone

996
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,040
talk about it before that's gonna help

997
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,839
them you know yeah exactly and uh that's

998
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:19,599
one of the reasons i came forward with

999
00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:21,119
it um

1000
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:24,319
the other reason is there's so many uh

1001
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:25,920
people out there that have had

1002
00:40:29,109 --> 00:40:28,000
experiences that

1003
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:29,119
uh

1004
00:40:32,309 --> 00:40:31,440
the public should know in general that

1005
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:32,319
uh

1006
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:35,839
this is a real part of this phenomenon

1007
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:37,760
the

1008
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:41,599
here

1009
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:44,160
they've got some agenda and

1010
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:46,960
and some of us are part of that agenda

1011
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:53,510
they've taken people uh

1012
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:56,160
and uh for whatever reason they've got

1013
00:41:01,990 --> 00:41:00,240
um and uh that's part of the mystery

1014
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:02,000
must be your genes you must have good

1015
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:03,119
genes

1016
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,880
or something you know and i'm not

1017
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,240
talking about the denim jeans i'm

1018
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:07,760
talking about you know

1019
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,589
um

1020
00:41:18,829 --> 00:41:17,829
would you mind giving an opinion on you

1021
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:18,839
know the

1022
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,640
the the well-known players in in the ufo

1023
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:24,960
disclosure game these days you know what

1024
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:27,520
the the hard thing to do is know who to

1025
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,960
trust and and you know who to back and

1026
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:33,280
and bet on and as i'm sure you're more

1027
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:35,119
than aware because you've been doing

1028
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,640
this for a while you've seen hucksters

1029
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,480
come and go so

1030
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,319
um you know

1031
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:42,160
how what do we do

1032
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:43,920
you know how do we act who do we trust

1033
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:45,920
dude you know yeah what are we listening

1034
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:48,400
to i'll speak to that in general i i

1035
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,640
don't want to talk about personalities

1036
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:52,960
because uh that's fine

1037
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:59,109
we should all come together and and work

1038
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:00,319
together

1039
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:03,920
to get disclosure but in general what

1040
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:05,920
um

1041
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:08,319
you know i when i first started

1042
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:11,440
investigating uh my story and different

1043
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:13,920
other stories um

1044
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:18,400
i would kind of you know listen to a

1045
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:20,560
part of what they were saying uh other

1046
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,280
people maybe other witnesses um

1047
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:25,680
and if it sounded uh didn't sound right

1048
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:28,640
to me i'd just forget it and

1049
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:30,800
you know move on but

1050
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:31,599
uh

1051
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:32,960
later on

1052
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:36,000
uh as as i went along i realized how

1053
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:39,760
really weird this stuff is and i didn't

1054
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:41,760
want to

1055
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:44,560
pooh-pooh any possibility that what they

1056
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,440
might be saying was true so

1057
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:49,680
i changed my two as far as

1058
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:56,950
believability i i don't judge i try not

1059
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,960
to judge people

1060
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:00,240
in the in the sense that if they're

1061
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,040
telling a story about something um

1062
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:04,960
i'll listen to it and and then make

1063
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:07,599
judgments on my own

1064
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:09,760
now as far as individuals go yeah there

1065
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:13,280
are a lot of what i call kibitzer's out

1066
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:15,040
there

1067
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,640
by kibitzer i mean someone who

1068
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:20,480
you know picks up a story here and there

1069
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:24,000
starts spouting off about it and uh

1070
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:26,560
making judgments and saying things that

1071
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:32,630
the way i i judge

1072
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,040
people who are talking about this in the

1073
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:37,680
so-called ufo community

1074
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:38,720
is

1075
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:39,680
if

1076
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:46,079
back up what they're saying

1077
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:49,920
and uh what their background is

1078
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:51,359
um

1079
00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:53,520
sure and this is a complex thing it's

1080
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,240
it's not easy it's a difficult thing

1081
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:59,119
to try to judge people to see if

1082
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:00,480
if they're

1083
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:03,599
bullshitting you or or

1084
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:05,359
they've got some other agenda the other

1085
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:06,800
thing that's important for you to

1086
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:10,800
understand here is there is indeed a ufo

1087
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:12,640
cabal

1088
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,720
it's an international group of people

1089
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:18,640
mostly staffed by

1090
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,630
of various agencies

1091
00:44:27,430 --> 00:44:26,560
um

1092
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:27,440
uh

1093
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,760
i i won't go into how i'm convinced of

1094
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:32,240
that but i am very convinced that this

1095
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:35,440
cabal still exists it's still going on

1096
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,599
and they're spreading disinformation and

1097
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:39,359
they're

1098
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:46,230
and

1099
00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,839
they're trying to let's say

1100
00:44:52,870 --> 00:44:51,359
make mischief

1101
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:52,880
about the whole thing

1102
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:55,040
and maybe uh

1103
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,550
pretend to know something that they

1104
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:05,520
really don't

1105
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,560
well that's fantastic

1106
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,240
probably because they would uh lose

1107
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:11,680
control and

1108
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:14,880
whatever power they have i would assume

1109
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:17,119
yeah that's part of it uh they'll

1110
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,640
they'll do anything to keep these

1111
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:20,880
secrets uh and

1112
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,880
and that's why congress is gonna have a

1113
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,280
difficult time uh

1114
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:27,040
uh dealing with

1115
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:29,760
the intelligence community

1116
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:30,640
um

1117
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:33,040
because there there definitely are

1118
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:34,880
people within the intelligence community

1119
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,800
that will do anything to keep these

1120
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,400
secrets and i mean

1121
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,480
anything

1122
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,640
yeah

1123
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,319
if you're going down that road you could

1124
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,480
you could think of a a lot of things

1125
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,000
that could have happened like james

1126
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:50,880
mcdonald and and others

1127
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:54,960
um so i'm glad you brought that up yeah

1128
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,359
uh james mcdonald

1129
00:46:02,230 --> 00:45:59,760
was found under a bridge

1130
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:02,240
with a bullet in his head

1131
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:03,119
uh

1132
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:07,750
problems with

1133
00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,040
his marriage

1134
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,200
as a result of his activities by the way

1135
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:12,720
on

1136
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:16,160
investigating ufo cases um

1137
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:17,280
uh

1138
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,680
capitalia had just been embarrassed in

1139
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:22,000
front of congress basically yeah

1140
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:23,280
yeah

1141
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:27,510
and uh

1142
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,200
well there's a lot more detail i can go

1143
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,880
into but i think some of it's personal

1144
00:46:34,150 --> 00:46:31,920
but

1145
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,160
uh there's a question

1146
00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:36,240
uh on whether or not he was

1147
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:37,680
murdered or

1148
00:46:46,390 --> 00:46:43,190
do you uh

1149
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,400
think you have an answer to that

1150
00:46:50,430 --> 00:46:48,800
do i have an answer to that no

1151
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:50,440
no i don't oh um

1152
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:51,680
[Music]

1153
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,160
yeah i don't have an answer to that

1154
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:56,960
uh there's a good book called firestorm

1155
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,920
right

1156
00:47:02,550 --> 00:46:59,359
have you read that

1157
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:02,560
not yet nope uh but i've i've looked

1158
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,240
into him a lot i know that was

1159
00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:06,800
apparently the the second attempt

1160
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:09,200
uh at suicide

1161
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,640
that he had

1162
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:11,920
yeah

1163
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,280
so

1164
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,440
that's a story everyone should look into

1165
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:17,200
is he's definitely

1166
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:19,680
um from from what i've read and learned

1167
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:20,800
about him

1168
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:22,079
you know

1169
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:24,559
he he was one of the leading scientific

1170
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:25,680
uh

1171
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,839
was the leading scientific investigator

1172
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:29,599
with ufos who

1173
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,520
um did not uh skip anything and and

1174
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,680
actually did the science

1175
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:38,319
well he's the one that walked into allen

1176
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:41,440
heineck's office one day

1177
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:44,000
and kicked his ass and told him to get

1178
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:46,160
on board and do his research and he'd

1179
00:47:50,829 --> 00:47:49,040
realize that this was a real thing

1180
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:50,839
and uh interesting

1181
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,599
yeah uh and uh

1182
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:55,440
and then after that hynek kind of

1183
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:56,720
changed his mind

1184
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:02,390
before that he was part of the air force

1185
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:03,680
cover-up

1186
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:06,960
was that around the mid-60s by chance

1187
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:07,920
oh

1188
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:09,599
because you can tell reading those blue

1189
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:12,079
book files heineken has changed his tune

1190
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:14,079
and all all of a sudden he's going more

1191
00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:15,839
towards unidentified for a lot more

1192
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:16,960
cases

1193
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:17,920
and

1194
00:48:22,309 --> 00:48:20,000
then manziel is starting to get involved

1195
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,319
and get in quintilla's ear and you know

1196
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:24,960
give him the prosaic bull crap so yeah

1197
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,280
that makes a lot of sense

1198
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,440
um do you mind taking a couple questions

1199
00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:31,839
before we get out of here from the

1200
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:32,839
audience

1201
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,280
okay um we got one here

1202
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,599
if you had five minutes to ask and

1203
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,480
receive questions as a congressman last

1204
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,880
tuesday week

1205
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:46,559
uh what

1206
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:48,559
would he have asked either of the

1207
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:54,069
uh

1208
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:55,280
do you think

1209
00:49:01,589 --> 00:48:59,200
there was a crash retrieval at roswell

1210
00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:01,599
in july

1211
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:04,559
3rd 1947.

1212
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:10,230
have you looked into that

1213
00:49:14,829 --> 00:49:12,910
that's one question i'd ask

1214
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,839
[Music]

1215
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,960
um i mean the

1216
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:18,240
the other question of course would be

1217
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:20,559
what i know most about is the

1218
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:28,470
and so they revolve around that

1219
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,079
speaking of um

1220
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:33,920
we've got a question here can you talk a

1221
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,319
little bit about how the nukes are

1222
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:38,559
shielded from emps

1223
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:44,710
um well

1224
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:47,680
as far as the um

1225
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,119
uh

1226
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:50,720
the missiles

1227
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:53,839
had these large were connected to the

1228
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:57,119
launch control center with very large uh

1229
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,800
cables

1230
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,720
about this large and they were triply

1231
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,079
shielded

1232
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:04,400
from an electromagnetic interference

1233
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:07,280
electromagnetic interference they had

1234
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:10,240
of course sheathing of various kinds

1235
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,359
around it

1236
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,280
there's also

1237
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:15,599
some kind of a gas i forget what it was

1238
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:17,440
nitrogen some

1239
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:19,839
gas in there that would

1240
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:23,359
help to shield from emi

1241
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:30,870
you know it depends on the strength of

1242
00:50:34,309 --> 00:50:32,960
the emp

1243
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,319
i know

1244
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:36,160
nuclear

1245
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,200
weapons

1246
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:39,520
nuclear explosions

1247
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:44,160
give out a magnet electromagnetic pulse

1248
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:46,960
and supposedly we had we did have

1249
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:50,160
systems that would supposedly protect

1250
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:53,400
the missile systems from

1251
00:50:56,950 --> 00:50:56,160
electromagnetic pulse but those details

1252
00:51:01,270 --> 00:50:56,960
are

1253
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:03,109
i don't think i think they only work for

1254
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:07,280
human uh technology as well apparently

1255
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,359
um

1256
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,520
kind of from the

1257
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:13,920
non-nutsable side do you believe there

1258
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:17,040
is a hybrid program being conducted

1259
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:19,040
yes

1260
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:20,400
because

1261
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,880
you mean by the extraterrestrial correct

1262
00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:23,920
yes

1263
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:26,400
yeah no no question about it uh there

1264
00:51:30,790 --> 00:51:27,520
have been

1265
00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:32,870
uh that have seen

1266
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,880
um

1267
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,200
so-called hybrid babies that were

1268
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:40,079
presented to them as uh as their own

1269
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:42,160
child

1270
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:45,200
during these abduction experiences

1271
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:46,400
it's hard

1272
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:48,720
not to believe that

1273
00:51:52,570 --> 00:51:50,960
they are producing hybrids

1274
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,580
right and for what reason

1275
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:54,000
[Music]

1276
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:55,599
uh

1277
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:01,109
yeah and

1278
00:52:06,309 --> 00:52:02,079
it's

1279
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:06,319
me too like if um you know abductions

1280
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:08,880
are a real thing we know that happens

1281
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:12,160
so you kind of just got to take it all

1282
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:13,680
you know you can't

1283
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,160
you can't start to begin parsing what

1284
00:52:19,109 --> 00:52:18,240
you want to believe and not believe i

1285
00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:19,119
guess

1286
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:19,920
so

1287
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,640
but

1288
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:21,680
yeah

1289
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:26,079
they're taking sperm they're taking eggs

1290
00:52:31,430 --> 00:52:28,319
from women um

1291
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:31,440
what do they need those for

1292
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,480
i wonder sometimes if those uh the the

1293
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,240
awesome documents you know those were

1294
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,079
out for a while but then it hit the news

1295
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,520
like the the health effects that that

1296
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:43,520
these would have on on humans when they

1297
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:45,359
had a close encounter and

1298
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,520
and uh you know and pregnancies that

1299
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,119
surprise pregnancies or whatever

1300
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:53,119
sometimes i wonder if that was just like

1301
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:55,040
a test to see

1302
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:57,760
you know if they tell people the damn

1303
00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:59,119
truth

1304
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:01,599
flat out how would it go

1305
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:02,960
you know

1306
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:04,400
and it'll probably take a lot more

1307
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:06,079
convincing i guess is what we would

1308
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,760
learn but

1309
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:12,309
what would be most advantageous to ask

1310
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:14,000
mr salas if he was called on for a

1311
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:19,109
i'm sorry

1312
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:20,160
um

1313
00:53:23,109 --> 00:53:21,200
this is

1314
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:23,119
yeah what would be

1315
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:25,839
the best question to ask you if you were

1316
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,720
called on for a future hearing it's hard

1317
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:31,040
to pick one probably but

1318
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:34,240
well again my expertise is based on my

1319
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:35,200
own

1320
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:37,520
testimony so

1321
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:39,200
i would like to

1322
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:42,240
get the question um

1323
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,680
mr solis

1324
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:45,839
uh

1325
00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,920
can you

1326
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,400
tell us about your incident and other

1327
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:53,040
related incidents having to do with ufos

1328
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:56,160
over nuclear weapons facilities

1329
00:54:03,190 --> 00:53:59,680
and i could go on for hours

1330
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:03,200
lucky this show was only one hour but

1331
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:05,440
um with with that

1332
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,520
we got about you know a couple minutes

1333
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:09,359
left or whatever but

1334
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:11,359
is there anything that you would like to

1335
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:14,079
say maybe i didn't ask or you would want

1336
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,160
the audience to know or think about or

1337
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:18,319
whatever it's completely up to you

1338
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:21,680
well i think we've reached a point

1339
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,839
of no return with the congress and the

1340
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:25,680
subject of uaps

1341
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:28,160
they're going to have to address my

1342
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:29,440
incident they're going to have to

1343
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:31,200
address

1344
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,440
this big question about national

1345
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:35,040
security

1346
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,839
impact

1347
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:39,200
uh and

1348
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,319
you know

1349
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,240
once we get and they're gonna have to

1350
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:44,240
have open hearings i think because there

1351
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:44,960
are

1352
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:48,240
too many people clamoring for open

1353
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,880
hearings with real witnesses

1354
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:52,640
not those talking heads i was telling

1355
00:54:57,510 --> 00:54:53,920
you about the

1356
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,520
kibbutz uh but real witnesses

1357
00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:59,760
and once they get that testimony going

1358
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:02,240
it's going to break over and break open

1359
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:04,240
the floodgates of people that have been

1360
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,119
holding back uh

1361
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:09,200
either because they don't want to

1362
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:12,079
be ridiculed about what they would say

1363
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:13,040
or

1364
00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:19,280
being held down by so

1365
00:55:21,510 --> 00:55:20,559
um

1366
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:21,520
that's

1367
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,880
and i think we're

1368
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,200
i feel good about the fact that we're on

1369
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:27,599
that road we're on that road to having

1370
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:30,160
open hearings and

1371
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,599
and uh

1372
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:33,680
there will be much more to come i'm

1373
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,240
convinced

1374
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:38,640
well that's that's good to hear and i'm

1375
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:40,079
going to give some more calls to make

1376
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,880
sure they call your ass

1377
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:44,160
because

1378
00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:47,119
you know it's been long enough i think

1379
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:48,559
you know they need to do their due

1380
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:50,799
diligence and give you a call and you

1381
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,079
should be

1382
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:54,160
you know on the stand at a public

1383
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:56,799
hearing i think um i would back that 100

1384
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,720
percent i'll even pay for the flight if

1385
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:00,720
i have to you know

1386
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:03,119
you said you'd pay for it but i would do

1387
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:05,200
i would

1388
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:06,799
well you know whoever you want to take

1389
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:11,109
um

1390
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:12,720
you know uh as

1391
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:15,040
i guess we got still a little time left

1392
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,599
i'll you okay with one more question oh

1393
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:19,280
sure yeah okay

1394
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:20,480
um

1395
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:25,920
maybe new experiences

1396
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,720
new experiences that are just you know

1397
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:30,720
looking out for

1398
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:34,000
for for answers in in you know

1399
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:35,839
in a world that's not really full of

1400
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:36,720
them

1401
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:38,799
so keep a journal

1402
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:42,240
uh if you're a new experiencer

1403
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:43,520
um

1404
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:44,960
it probably

1405
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:47,839
was not the first time uh whatever you

1406
00:56:53,670 --> 00:56:51,520
recall and it may not be the last um

1407
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:53,680
keep a journal of your dreams

1408
00:57:02,390 --> 00:56:55,119
uh

1409
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:04,309
so yeah

1410
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,240
and and join other group

1411
00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:10,160
you know like cerro

1412
00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:11,680
group

1413
00:57:15,030 --> 00:57:13,280
which deals with

1414
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:15,040
abductees

1415
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:16,000
uh

1416
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:17,680
and you can

1417
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:20,400
go to these uh you know private private

1418
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:21,760
groups

1419
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,250
uh and share information

1420
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:25,440
[Music]

1421
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,000
so that's that's my advice

1422
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:30,240
no i like it i'm gonna

1423
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:32,000
start doing that now

1424
00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:33,920
because yeah i've definitely had you

1425
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,760
know at least maybe two dreams um

1426
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:39,599
in my life that were definitely not

1427
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:42,960
normal and that i can remember perfectly

1428
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:45,599
that yeah at some point see what happens

1429
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:48,720
is during these experiences i think

1430
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:50,079
these beings

1431
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,240
intentionally

1432
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:54,960
suppress your memories in some way

1433
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:57,119
yeah and um

1434
00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:58,799
they don't want you to remember for some

1435
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,359
particular reason but at some point uh

1436
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:02,880
other experiences were told at some

1437
00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:05,440
point you will remember

1438
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:06,839
and so

1439
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:09,599
um these might come in the form of

1440
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:11,839
dreams or other

1441
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:13,440
other things that happen

1442
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:14,720
to you

1443
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:20,710
do you suggest hypnosis

1444
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:26,470
i

1445
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:44,319
well

1446
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:48,640
uh hypnosis is just deep relaxation

1447
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:50,880
uh to the point where you're focused on

1448
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:53,280
someone else's voice

1449
00:58:59,589 --> 00:58:58,230
but relaxation works very well also you

1450
00:59:01,990 --> 00:58:59,599
don't have to go

1451
00:59:04,069 --> 00:59:02,000
into a deep hypnosis to

1452
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:04,079
start recall

1453
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:06,799
um and so that session i had with jacobs

1454
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:09,440
worked very well i was able to remember

1455
00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,480
some particular details

1456
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:14,720
oh okay

1457
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:16,160
good stuff

1458
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:18,079
well hey i really appreciate you doing

1459
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:20,400
this and taking the time there's

1460
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:23,040
you know other things you could be doing

1461
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:24,799
and so i'm just really grateful for you

1462
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:26,799
doing this i look up to you everybody in

1463
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,960
the chat is you're really like and looks

1464
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:30,240
up to you so

1465
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,599
um

1466
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,520
i i thank you and if there's anything i

1467
00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:34,799
can do i don't know what that would ever

1468
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:37,599
be but you know i'm here to do it so

1469
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:38,480
well

1470
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:39,920
anybody who's listening just keep

1471
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:42,400
writing letters to your congressman uh i

1472
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:45,680
mean real letters those kinds you write

1473
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:47,920
send in the mail

1474
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:50,480
yeah they i think they look at those

1475
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:54,240
more than they do uh tweets or

1476
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:55,200
you know

1477
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:56,559
messages

1478
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,359
yeah

1479
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,440
and uh

1480
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,520
let's all stick together and get this

1481
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:03,599
done get open hearings

1482
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:06,240
that'll break everything open

1483
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:09,040
all right i'm into it and i'll do it

1484
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:12,319
you're my boss so hey guys thanks

1485
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,359
all right take care thank you you too

1486
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:17,599
all right

1487
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:21,599
i had a wonderful time talking to mr

1488
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:24,079
salas and uh so grateful for him

1489
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:26,640
donating his time uh to this show to be

1490
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:29,040
with us and to take some questions and

1491
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,359
and talk to us about his experiences at

1492
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:33,359
malmstrom and his personal experiences

1493
01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:34,480
of

1494
01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:36,319
abduction so

1495
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:38,400
just really grateful for him to take the

1496
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:40,720
time and do that with us especially you

1497
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:43,040
know me being uh newer

1498
01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:44,480
to this and

1499
01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:46,240
you know being a bit confused myself and

1500
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:48,319
i'm sure you guys are too so

1501
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:51,119
um really appreciating

1502
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,920
his uh time he's got a very uh calming

1503
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:55,599
attitude about it and it's it's very

1504
01:01:00,390 --> 01:00:58,160
nice to hear and talk to him about it so

1505
01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:00,400
really appreciate it hope you all have a

1506
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:03,040
great rest of the night

1507
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,119
i appreciate your time

1508
01:01:11,430 --> 01:01:07,680
um i'll be back soon we'll talk we'll

1509
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:11,440
hang out we'll laugh and all that stuff

1510
01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:12,240
so

1511
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:14,400
make sure you like the video subscribe

1512
01:01:17,670 --> 01:01:15,680
if you hadn't

1513
01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:17,680
and share it with friends all that kind

1514
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:19,040
of fun stuff

1515
01:01:23,670 --> 01:01:21,119
that really helps the the video get more

1516
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:23,680
views and and all that kind of stuff

1517
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:24,880
so

1518
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:27,760
whatever you can do there it's fantastic

1519
01:01:32,549 --> 01:01:30,720
and yeah appreciate your time

1520
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:32,559
have a great evening

1521
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:39,150
good morning my name is robert salas

1522
01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:41,760
[Music]

1523
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:43,680
robert salas

1524
01:01:48,470 --> 01:01:46,480
[Music]

1525
01:01:58,500 --> 01:01:48,480
fort solace

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01:02:12,970 --> 01:02:10,950
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do